There’s no denying the gigantic tsunami that AMD have unleashed on the entire DIY PC market known as Ryzen. Especially with their recent Zen 3 based “Ryzen 5000” series processors AMD have taken a convincing lead in processor performance in both single-threaded and multi-threaded applications on top of offering far more cores than their competitor in a much more efficient package.
Suffice to say there’s a solid reason why Intel CPU DIY sales have been down quarter after quarter.
But do these brand new Ryzen 5000 series processors come with high defect rates however? According to some no-name pre-built system seller they do.
The failure on the new AMD CPUs are still too high.
AMD Ryzen 5950x x50 units 8 doa
AMD Ryzen 5900x x50 units 4 doa
AMD Ryzen 5800x x100 units 4 doa
AMD Ryzen 5600x x120 units 3 doa
We had only 1 dead Intel CPU it was a 9700k in our time of business
Doa: Dead on arrival
— PowerGPU® (@PowerGPU) February 13, 2021
Say hello to “PoweGPU” supposedly they’ve been in business since 1999 and yet nobody has ever heard of them before. However PowerGPU has decided to run their mouths about their supposed defect rates with pre-built systems containing Ryzen 5000 processors.
From this tweet you’re very clear to see from the point of view from PowerGPU that these new Ryzen processors have an extremely high failure rate.
With 8 defects from 50 Ryzen 9 5950X systems sold giving an effective rate of failure at 16%, the Ryzen 9 5900X comes with an 8% failure rate from 50 units while the Ryzen 7 5800X has a failure rate of 4% from four defects from 100 systems sold and the Ryzen 5 5600X has a supposed failure rate of 2.5% from 3 defects from 120 systems built.
While apparently they’ve only ever had ONE Intel processor that was defective during their entire 22 year span as a functioning business? Yeah right.
PowerGPU have also claimed that they’ve had tremendous struggles dealing with AMD B550 and X570 motherboards apparently receiving a handful of motherboards that are dead on arrival every single week.
Now, failure rates like this would absolutely be catastrophic…. if true, as the general rule of thumb for defects tend to range around the 1% mark however PowerGPU’s claims of 16% failure rates for some products would be nothing short of superstition.
To me it would seem these claims are nothing short of bullshit meant to spread on appropriate news sources to drive AMD’s credibility down into the mud, sound familiar?
CTS Labs or “Viceroy Research” the supposed Israeli security firm who was actually commissioned by Intel themselves supposedly discovered numerous bullshit security flaws on Ryzen processors that required physical system access in order to execute.’
Now while Intel at the time and continuing onward to this day have a plethora of real security flaws of which they’ve known about months in advance as everything regarding them happened to be under a non-disclosure agreement. Giving Intel time in order to remedy the flaws with microcode updates before they’re brought into light…. or in the case of the CEO Brian Krzanich to dump as many Intel shares as he was legally allowed to.
In actual fact in a now removed video CTS-Labs gave out an interview utilizing extensive greenscreen work and stock footage until it was later discovered that the “firm’s” logo was also literally a stock image.
Seemingly it would appear that CTS-Labs popped out out of nowhere and quickly faded into obscurity after their hit piece failed spectacularly.
CTS-Labs in this instance actually went ahead and published their whitepaper regarding the so called “flaws” without disclosing such information with AMD prior, in fact they went as far to pre-brief various news sources to pump out as much fud bullshit as physically possible to create discredit and devalue AMD as a company as stated from Vicegoy’s own “analysis”
“Viceroy, in consultation with experts, have evaluated CTS’s report. We believe the issues identified by CTS are fatal to AMD on a commercial level, and outright dangerous at an international level.
In light of CTS’s discoveries, the meteoric rise of AMD’s stock price now appears to be totally unjustified and entirely unsustainable. We believe AMD is worth $0.00 and will have no choice but to file for Chapter 11 (Bankruptcy) in order to effectively deal with the repercussions of recent discoveries.”
The whole CTS-Labs farce was merely a commissioned assassination attempt on AMD in what was most likely an attempt to short their shares, which was made even more apparent during a supposed call between CTS-Labs and Anandtech which is a hysterical read I can assure you.
Moving back onto the subject of supposed AMD Ryzen failure rates, if we check out Mindfactory.de who release monthly reports on their CPU and GPU sales figures each and every months. Mindfactory happens to be Germany’s largest retailer when it comes to all things in the DIY PC market, though Mindfactory also happen to be one of the largest if not the largest retailers in the whole of Europe as well frequently selling over 30,000 CPUs per month alone.
Because if we go to Mindfactory’s listings for Ryzen 5000 processors we’re met with a completely different story from an actual business, not some chump flogging pre-built systems for profit.
For starters let’s have a look at their 5950X listing, supposedly this processor has a 16% defect rate according to PowerGPU.
Over 2,020 units sold and what do we have here? Oh my god no it can’t be…
It’s the review section featuring a COMPLAINT RATE which just happens to be based on RETURNS.
I highly doubt people are buying these processors and them returning them upon delivery because of buyer’s remorse so more than likely 99.9% of these returns would be considered DOA or defective.
And with an astonishing complaint rate of just 0.77% on the Ryzen 9 5950X that equates to at least 15 processors have been returned out of 2,020 units. A far cry from the horrors of 16% claimed by PowerGPU.
A similar story can be found moving onwards to the Ryzen 9 5900X which has sold over 2,980 units and only has a return rate of just 0.37%
That means out of the 2980 processors that have been sold, a mere 11 of them have been returned. Compared to PowerGPU who’ve supposedly had four units die out of a total of 50.
It just doesn’t stop there as the Ryzen 7 5800X has sold over 10,370 units and has a return rate of just 0.58% meaning that only 60 units out of the 10,370+ have been returned for whatever reason.
While the Ryzen 5 5600X has sold over 12,580 units yet comes with a lower defect rate of just 0.50% meaning that only 63 of those near 13,000 units sold have come back.
So what does this all mean exactly? Well it’s pretty obvious that “PowerGPU” are talking out of their ass. One entire dead Intel processor in the 22 years in business their supposed “company” has been operating for? I highly fucking doubt that. While legitimate retailers show next to nowhere near the same rates of failure selling units on a much larger scale. There’s quite a variance between 16% of units being defective compared to under 1% after shipping 40 times the amount of processors.
Literally nobody has ever heard of this “PowerGPU” company before and quite honestly I entirely doubt they’re an actual legitimate business because it’s become apparent that they’re preaching nothing but slander towards AMD. Because if you actually googled their supposed “company” you’re met with the amazing description of this:
Now I’m not sure about you but I’ve known since at least the second grade there’s no “I” in “team” however PowerGPU has been thrifting computers for over 20 years, though it’s unknown just how long ago exactly that description has been there for, utilizing the wayback machine shows that it was there until 2019.
So this is merely a business of one man building prebuilt gaming computers and selling them for profit, during a whole 20 year timespan he’s managed to sell ~795 computer systems that’s just under 40 computers per years. But now supposedly within a two year timeframe he has managed to get the brand out there and has now managed to build and sell a total of 320 systems containing AMD Ryzen 5000 series processors?
Yeah, no. Someone’s getting kickbacks here, the numbers just aren’t adding up here.
I remember the last time I’ve struggled with mathematical equations that simply do not add up, and I’ve been labeled a Nazi ever since.